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Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – All Ireland Forum Friends

The Irish Examiner Thursday, September 30, 2004 : Tara at the crossroads of history TARA is under threat. The National Roads Authority continues to perpetuate the fiction that Tara is confined to the cluster of monuments on the hilltop. This is not the case. The hilltop is but one element of what our ancestors understood Tara to be in antiquity. The hilltop is part of a wider, integrated, archaeological and historical landscape. That part lying to the eastern side of the hilltop was especially important in prehistoric times and subsequently, in the early historic period, it became the royal demesne of the kings of Tara. The planned route of the M3 toll-motorway and major floodlit interchange at Blundelstown (lying little more than 1.5km from the ‘Banqueting Hall’ on the hilltop) will cut through the heart of this exceptionally sensitive landscape. In so doing it will irreparably damage the cultural integrity of this internationally significant archaeological complex. The construction of housing and industrial estates that will inevitably follow in its wake will destroy Tara’s environmental context forever. It was acknowledged as early as 2000, in the N3 Navan-to-Dunshaughlin route selection report and reiterated in the environmental impact statement (2002) that “this section of the M3 runs through one of the richest and best-known archaeological landscapes in Europe”. Ironically, this is once again confirmed by the recent announcement from the NRA that test trenching along the proposed route between Navan and Dunshaughlin alone has uncovered no fewer than 28 archaeological sites and major complexes. This news, though alarming, is entirely as predicted by experts researching Tara. As usual, one can expect yet further discoveries in advance of road construction. Irrespective, however, of the large numbers of monuments, the destruction of this intact archaeological landscape is too great a price to pay should this development proceed as planned. We are not opponents of progress and development, but sometimes, in exceptional circumstances, it is necessary to question and reconsider major development decisions. The case of Tara is just such an exception. Are we in danger of repeating the same bitterly regretted mistakes as were made at Stonehenge? In that instance a major road has to be replaced by a tunnel, at enormous expense, in an attempt to ameliorate the irreversible damage inflicted on Britain’s foremost archaeological monument and cultural landscape. In the case of Tara and the M3 there are viable and realistic alternatives where both infrastructure and heritage can be successfully accommodated (without requiring a tunnel). Tara is the crossroads at which we should pause to reflect on the direction we, as a nation, choose to take with regard to our unique and valuable heritage. We cannot afford to get it wrong. Dr Edel Bhreathnach, Micheál Ó Cléirigh Institute, UCD; Charles Doherty, School of History, UCD; Professor George Eogan, PhD, D Litt Dublin; Joe Fenwick, Department of Archaeology, NUI Galway; Dr Elizabeth FitzPatrick, Department of Archaeology NUI, Galway; Prof Dennis Harding, MA, DPhil, FRSE Abercromby Professor of Archaeology University of Edinburgh; Seamus Mac Gabhann, Editor, Journal of Meath Archaeological and Historical Society NUI, Maynooth; Dr Finbar McCormick, School of Archaeology and Palaeoecology, QUB; Conor Newman, Department of Archaeology, NUI, Galway; Prof Máirín Ní Dhonnchadha, Scoil na Gaeilge, NUI, Galway; Prof Dáibhí Ó Cróinín, Department of History, NUI, Galway; Prof Etienne Rynne, MRIA, FSA, Galway; Prof Alfred Smyth, Dean of Arts & Humanities Canterbury Christ Church University College; Prof Charles Thomas, FBA, Hon MRIA, Cornwall; Prof John Waddell, Dept of Archaeology, NUI Galway; Richard Warner, MRIA Belfast; Dr Niamh Whitfield, PhD, FSA London.

Irish Examiner

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Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – All Ireland Forum Friends

The Irish Examiner Thursday, September 30, 2004 : Tara at the crossroads of history TARA is under threat. The National Roads Authority continues to perpetuate the fiction that Tara is confined to the cluster of monuments on the hilltop. This is not the case. The hilltop is but one element of what our ancestors understood Tara to be in antiquity. The hilltop is part of a wider, integrated, archaeological and historical landscape. That part lying to the eastern side of the hilltop was especially important in prehistoric times and subsequently, in the early historic period, it became the royal demesne of the kings of Tara. The planned route of the M3 toll-motorway and major floodlit interchange at Blundelstown (lying little more than 1.5km from the ‘Banqueting Hall’ on the hilltop) will cut through the heart of this exceptionally sensitive landscape. In so doing it will irreparably damage the cultural integrity of this internationally significant archaeological complex. The construction of housing and industrial estates that will inevitably follow in its wake will destroy Tara’s environmental context forever. It was acknowledged as early as 2000, in the N3 Navan-to-Dunshaughlin route selection report and reiterated in the environmental impact statement (2002) that “this section of the M3 runs through one of the richest and best-known archaeological landscapes in Europe”. Ironically, this is once again confirmed by the recent announcement from the NRA that test trenching along the proposed route between Navan and Dunshaughlin alone has uncovered no fewer than 28 archaeological sites and major complexes. This news, though alarming, is entirely as predicted by experts researching Tara. As usual, one can expect yet further discoveries in advance of road construction. Irrespective, however, of the large numbers of monuments, the destruction of this intact archaeological landscape is too great a price to pay should this development proceed as planned. We are not opponents of progress and development, but sometimes, in exceptional circumstances, it is necessary to question and reconsider major development decisions. The case of Tara is just such an exception. Are we in danger of repeating the same bitterly regretted mistakes as were made at Stonehenge? In that instance a major road has to be replaced by a tunnel, at enormous expense, in an attempt to ameliorate the irreversible damage inflicted on Britain’s foremost archaeological monument and cultural landscape. In the case of Tara and the M3 there are viable and realistic alternatives where both infrastructure and heritage can be successfully accommodated (without requiring a tunnel). Tara is the crossroads at which we should pause to reflect on the direction we, as a nation, choose to take with regard to our unique and valuable heritage. We cannot afford to get it wrong. Dr Edel Bhreathnach, Micheál Ó Cléirigh Institute, UCD; Charles Doherty, School of History, UCD; Professor George Eogan, PhD, D Litt Dublin; Joe Fenwick, Department of Archaeology, NUI Galway; Dr Elizabeth FitzPatrick, Department of Archaeology NUI, Galway; Prof Dennis Harding, MA, DPhil, FRSE Abercromby Professor of Archaeology University of Edinburgh; Seamus Mac Gabhann, Editor, Journal of Meath Archaeological and Historical Society NUI, Maynooth; Dr Finbar McCormick, School of Archaeology and Palaeoecology, QUB; Conor Newman, Department of Archaeology, NUI, Galway; Prof Máirín Ní Dhonnchadha, Scoil na Gaeilge, NUI, Galway; Prof Dáibhí Ó Cróinín, Department of History, NUI, Galway; Prof Etienne Rynne, MRIA, FSA, Galway; Prof Alfred Smyth, Dean of Arts & Humanities Canterbury Christ Church University College; Prof Charles Thomas, FBA, Hon MRIA, Cornwall; Prof John Waddell, Dept of Archaeology, NUI Galway; Richard Warner, MRIA Belfast; Dr Niamh Whitfield, PhD, FSA London.

Irish Examiner

_________________Gabs Burr Point, Ballyhalbert – The most easterly point in the whole of Ireland

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Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – All Ireland Forum Friends

The Irish Examiner Thursday, September 30, 2004 : Tara at the crossroads of history TARA is under threat. The National Roads Authority continues to perpetuate the fiction that Tara is confined to the cluster of monuments on the hilltop. This is not the case. The hilltop is but one element of what our ancestors understood Tara to be in antiquity. The hilltop is part of a wider, integrated, archaeological and historical landscape. That part lying to the eastern side of the hilltop was especially important in prehistoric times and subsequently, in the early historic period, it became the royal demesne of the kings of Tara. The planned route of the M3 toll-motorway and major floodlit interchange at Blundelstown (lying little more than 1.5km from the ‘Banqueting Hall’ on the hilltop) will cut through the heart of this exceptionally sensitive landscape. In so doing it will irreparably damage the cultural integrity of this internationally significant archaeological complex. The construction of housing and industrial estates that will inevitably follow in its wake will destroy Tara’s environmental context forever. It was acknowledged as early as 2000, in the N3 Navan-to-Dunshaughlin route selection report and reiterated in the environmental impact statement (2002) that “this section of the M3 runs through one of the richest and best-known archaeological landscapes in Europe”. Ironically, this is once again confirmed by the recent announcement from the NRA that test trenching along the proposed route between Navan and Dunshaughlin alone has uncovered no fewer than 28 archaeological sites and major complexes. This news, though alarming, is entirely as predicted by experts researching Tara. As usual, one can expect yet further discoveries in advance of road construction. Irrespective, however, of the large numbers of monuments, the destruction of this intact archaeological landscape is too great a price to pay should this development proceed as planned. We are not opponents of progress and development, but sometimes, in exceptional circumstances, it is necessary to question and reconsider major development decisions. The case of Tara is just such an exception. Are we in danger of repeating the same bitterly regretted mistakes as were made at Stonehenge? In that instance a major road has to be replaced by a tunnel, at enormous expense, in an attempt to ameliorate the irreversible damage inflicted on Britain’s foremost archaeological monument and cultural landscape. In the case of Tara and the M3 there are viable and realistic alternatives where both infrastructure and heritage can be successfully accommodated (without requiring a tunnel). Tara is the crossroads at which we should pause to reflect on the direction we, as a nation, choose to take with regard to our unique and valuable heritage. We cannot afford to get it wrong. Dr Edel Bhreathnach, Micheál Ó Cléirigh Institute, UCD; Charles Doherty, School of History, UCD; Professor George Eogan, PhD, D Litt Dublin; Joe Fenwick, Department of Archaeology, NUI Galway; Dr Elizabeth FitzPatrick, Department of Archaeology NUI, Galway; Prof Dennis Harding, MA, DPhil, FRSE Abercromby Professor of Archaeology University of Edinburgh; Seamus Mac Gabhann, Editor, Journal of Meath Archaeological and Historical Society NUI, Maynooth; Dr Finbar McCormick, School of Archaeology and Palaeoecology, QUB; Conor Newman, Department of Archaeology, NUI, Galway; Prof Máirín Ní Dhonnchadha, Scoil na Gaeilge, NUI, Galway; Prof Dáibhí Ó Cróinín, Department of History, NUI, Galway; Prof Etienne Rynne, MRIA, FSA, Galway; Prof Alfred Smyth, Dean of Arts & Humanities Canterbury Christ Church University College; Prof Charles Thomas, FBA, Hon MRIA, Cornwall; Prof John Waddell, Dept of Archaeology, NUI Galway; Richard Warner, MRIA Belfast; Dr Niamh Whitfield, PhD, FSA London.

Irish Examiner

_________________Gabs Burr Point, Ballyhalbert – The most easterly point in the whole of Ireland

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Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – East Anglian Forum Friends (EAFF)

Sorry to arrive here after D – but thanks for the welcome. Thanks to Tetricus for starting the EAFF thread, and thanks especially to Corinne for setting this all up at short notice. The circumstances are extremely sad, imho – and came as quite a shock, especially for those who, like me, have been regulars of the various ‘official’ TT Forums for for six years or more – but let’s make the best of it, and get comfortable in our new home…. 😀

Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – East Anglian Forum Friends (EAFF)

Sorry to arrive here after D – but thanks for the welcome. Thanks to Tetricus for starting the EAFF thread, and thanks especially to Corinne for setting this all up at short notice. The circumstances are extremely sad, imho – and came as quite a shock, especially for those who, like me, have been regulars of the various ‘official’ TT Forums for for six years or more – but let’s make the best of it, and get comfortable in our new home…. 😀

Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – East Anglian Forum Friends (EAFF)

Sorry to arrive here after D – but thanks for the welcome. Thanks to Tetricus for starting the EAFF thread, and thanks especially to Corinne for setting this all up at short notice. The circumstances are extremely sad, imho – and came as quite a shock, especially for those who, like me, have been regulars of the various ‘official’ TT Forums for for six years or more – but let’s make the best of it, and get comfortable in our new home…. 😀

Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – FF Midlands

No, not married yet!!! We’re in the process of planning though! Looking at next summer! Just at the venue choosing stage. Good to hear from you all!! Bruce, Alan, Tim – how are your better halves? D – not sure about getting webby back up! My current job leaves me shattered come the end of the day so did post on the old forum for a volunteer to take over (posted on 2 threads!) and have had no response to it other than Awkward offering a home for it but not really looking to develop it. Of course, my old domain got wiped and I thought I had a back up locally but it’s very fragmented…._________________

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Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – FF Midlands

No, not married yet!!! We’re in the process of planning though! Looking at next summer! Just at the venue choosing stage. Good to hear from you all!! Bruce, Alan, Tim – how are your better halves? D – not sure about getting webby back up! My current job leaves me shattered come the end of the day so did post on the old forum for a volunteer to take over (posted on 2 threads!) and have had no response to it other than Awkward offering a home for it but not really looking to develop it. Of course, my old domain got wiped and I thought I had a back up locally but it’s very fragmented…._________________

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Time Team Forum Friends :: View topic – FF Midlands

No, not married yet!!! We’re in the process of planning though! Looking at next summer! Just at the venue choosing stage. Good to hear from you all!! Bruce, Alan, Tim – how are your better halves? D – not sure about getting webby back up! My current job leaves me shattered come the end of the day so did post on the old forum for a volunteer to take over (posted on 2 threads!) and have had no response to it other than Awkward offering a home for it but not really looking to develop it. Of course, my old domain got wiped and I thought I had a back up locally but it’s very fragmented…._________________

It’s too darn early to write a signature…

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phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: NorthWestForumFriends

Well us Northerners are re-housed 😀

sniffy

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 89

Location: Herts

phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject:

Hi Sniffy – glad to see you up north 😀

Limegreen

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 78

Location: Yorkish

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject:

8) Phil what about the gnome piccie?

😀 😀

sniffy

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 89

Location: Herts

phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject:

Limegreen wrote:

8) Phil what about the gnome piccie?

😀 😀

I’ve just got a new pooter Limey so when all is transferred and I’m sorted it’ll get done bud 😉

How is thi’ btw?

Limegreen

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 78

Location: Yorkish

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject:

8) Ok Phil got that cheers of to bed shortly

😀 😀

fish

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 154

Location: Cheshire

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:43 pm    Post subject:

The forum is dead Long live the forum! 😀 Ahhh! Smell that new forum smell. No food or drink allowed in case it spills and stains the upholstery. 😉

BTW, is it me, or is this shiny new forum courtesy of Co (Thanks Co! ) quicker than the C4 one, and with more mod cons too?

Right then, off for a little light exploration.

phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject:

Don’t get lost now! 😛

Valerie

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 357

Location: Paisley, Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject:

fish

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 154

Location: Cheshire

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:10 pm    Post subject:

… … “Look at that will you! You let phil go off and find a new place to set up the NWFF mud hut, and he sticks it on top of a bl@@dy hill! ” 😛 “Now where’s the bar?” 8)

phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject:

Hiya fish. I still have your fish piccy if you want to use it as your avatar. I’ll upload it and pm you the addy for it if you like. 😀

I’m just doing the Ribchester Itinerary so it’s no trouble.

phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject:

Have posted up the itinerary for Ribchester HERE 😉

Limegreen

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 78

Location: Yorkish

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject:

8) Is it DONK from Dick Dastardly catch the pigeon or Wackey Races?

phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject:

Close Limey…it’s Klunk from Catch the Pigeon 😉

Limegreen

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 78

Location: Yorkish

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject:

8) You dont look like a Klunk I think (hehe)

Limegreen

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 78

Location: Yorkish

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject:

8) Donk Crocodile Dundee 2 I think?

Valerie

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 357

Location: Paisley, Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject:

Looking at that avatar – you should maybe change your name from limegreen to fuchsia pink!!

Cally

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 91

Location: Wiltshire

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject:

Limegreen

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 78

Location: Yorkish

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject:

8) OK TURTLE PINK I thought that was a colour that you where associated with at one time (yes/no)

fish

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 154

Location: Cheshire

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject:

phil b wrote:

Hiya fish. I still have your fish piccy if you want to use it as your avatar. I’ll upload it and pm you the addy for it if you like. 😀

I’m just doing the Ribchester Itinerary so it’s no trouble.

Yes sir, pretty please sir.

Although I did a bit of doodling on it, and I’ve now got a coloured in version. Can I send you that one too and let you choose which is best?

phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:57 pm    Post subject:

If you wish fish 😀

fish

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 154

Location: Cheshire

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject:

Righty-ho, I’ll send that shortly. In the meantime, I’ll borrow this nice pscyo…. psyco…. psycodel….. er, shiny avatar from Co’s gallery.

(This now makes no sense, ‘cos I’ve since checked my pm’s 😀 )

Valerie

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 357

Location: Paisley, Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject:

Think the word you were groping for was psychedelic, Fish!

Working with Paisley patterns as I do, I have to be able to spell it!

phil b

Joined: 09 Jun 2005Posts: 763

Location: Accrington

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject:

fish wrote:

Righty-ho, I’ll send that shortly. In the meantime, I’ll borrow this nice pscyo…. psyco…. psycodel….. er, shiny avatar from Co’s gallery.

(This now makes no sense, ‘cos I’ve since checked my pm’s 😀 )

You can still send me the colour version if you like fish, I’ll just replace the pic and use the same link.

 

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